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Nanci
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« on: November 29, 2012, 06:54:44 PM »

Want to make a soap that doesnt contain coconut oil but my brain is hurting right now and everything I think of doesn't give me any lather.  any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 07:16:19 PM »

Palm Kernel or castor.
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Nanci
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 07:32:00 PM »

I dont want to use palm kernal but dang!  I cant seem to get my cleansing up with the castor!
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 07:08:02 AM »

Babassu is wonderful too.  Has good lather, and is cleansing.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 07:45:37 AM »

Add some honey or sugar, that will help boost up those bubbles. I make a soap for my mom's best friend who's fighting breast cancer thats OO, avocado oil and castor oil. Its high OO (like 72%) so has to cure for a few months but it's really nice once done.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 07:53:40 AM »

Great idea!  I had the owner of my hair salon tell me last night she's highly allergic to coconut oil so I'm tying to come up with a recipe that won't "kill" her!
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 08:21:50 AM »

The recipe I do is 72% OO, 20% avocado oil and 8% castor oil. Great for sensitive skin. I do a steep water discount too on this one just like I do with my Castile soaps.
I've started even adding just regular granulate sugar dissolved in water in most of my soaps if I'm not using honey. It definitely helps give those fluffy big bubbles.
Good luck on the soap for your hair dresser! Coming up with new recipes is always fun!
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 08:51:38 AM »

Honestly new recipes get me sooo pumped!  I love a challenge and I love the chemistry part of it!!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 09:13:12 AM »

Nicholray in soap calc the cleansing is at 0, so how much sugar do you use/
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 10:53:20 AM »

The cleanse will stay at 0 - sugar just helps make bubbles. 

If you are looking for a little cleanse without the top 3 oils that provide it you could add in some Walmart GV brand shortening which has a cleanse of 5 and also milk soap full fat cow's milk or heavy cream will give you some cleanse as well.

If you are going to to add milk skip the sugar, milk has sugar in it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 11:05:49 AM »

Oh yes, cleanse is at 0 but it will still get you clean so don't worry about that. For cancer patients its important that the soap is extremely mild so a 0 cleanse is perfect. A Castile has a 0 cleanse too and we all know that cleans well. Anyhow, I do 1 tsp ppo, though I know some on here do 1 tbsp ppo which I think I will try out soon.
I like soap's idea of using whole milk or heavy cream, might just have to try that out too!
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 05:21:58 PM »

I always soap with whole goats milk.  I dont use anything else.  Sorry for my stupid comments earleir I was tryign to pay attention to my class I was proctoring while reading here.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 08:11:17 PM »

My first soap was 100% lard with 0% superfat with some tea tree and tangerine EOs, it was intended to be strictly grandma's - 'gets everything clean laundry soap' but it is such a nice soap I've been using it for everything; showering, shampoo, shaving, and even laundry to boot.  It's sure a heck of a lot better than the cheap $5.00/gallon liquid soap I was using and nobody in the office is complaining; very lathery in the hair. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 05:40:43 PM »

So can you sub palm kernal flakes ounce for ounce for coconut?
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 09:01:44 PM »

Loolee mentined that babasu oil has good lather and cleansing, similar to co. Check it out on soap calc.
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