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Studio Olivia
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« on: August 16, 2012, 01:22:58 PM »

Columbus Foods has this: Soybean Shortening - 100% Pure - No Additives

Have any of you used it and if so, do you know where there is a soap calculator that has it in the data base?

Like many other people, I made my first batch of soap using Crisco.  It was nice soap!  I had added castor oil @ 5% and it really produced to a nice, hard, white bar of soap with a nice lather.  But, no one  wants to know there is Crisco in their soap (except me and I don't care).  I liked the soap and was wondering if I could duplicate it with this Soybean Shortening, but the soapcalc.net calculator doesn't include this one and I am not going to go poking my uneducated curiosity into places it should not go, ya know?  I get into enough mischief as is without messing with things that I know nothing about.  My son and his family (9 kids) liked the Crisco based soap, but they also didn't like the idea of that being the base.  HELP???   Huh
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soap1967
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 02:59:07 PM »

Soybean shortening is listed on soapcalc as "soybean hydrogenated".

I have never used pure soybean shortening I use crisco which is a blend of soy and palm.  You are not required to list crisco on your ingredients.  You can list the ingredients in the Crisco as Crisco itself is not an ingredient rather a brand.

Please post what you think about the soybean shortening in comparison!
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Studio Olivia
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 04:55:23 PM »

Thanks, Soap...I asked the same question in a google search and there was an answer someone had posted.  They said they used the calculations for soybean oil because the solid completely hydrogenated soybean shortening doesn't have a SAP value.  Now I am scared to use it.  But, I will continue to ask and maybe just make a batch with a very basic recipe and see how it turns out. I loved the first batch of soap I made.  I was beautiful and very nice feeling. 

I didn't know I didn't have to list Crisco as an ingredient, but you are right...that is a brand.  I don't think they would appreciate it if I used their brand name without their permission, would they? 

Thanks again!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 08:09:55 PM »

That sounds like a bit of misinformation to me because if hydrogenated oils don't have an SAP - then why is the SAP listed on soap calc for crisco as well as soybean shortening?  SAP for soybean shortening is .136 and for crisco .138. - and for soybean oil .136 same as the shortening.

You could use either for your calculations; however, if you like to use the values while formulating you need to be specific, as the values from soybean shortening and soybean oil are quite different.

Unfortunately there is much information which is incorrect on the web.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 08:19:32 PM »

I use the app soap calc it is the best and easy to use it does have all the oils including the one you are looking for
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Studio Olivia
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 06:54:02 PM »

Thanks...I guess I just got confused because Columbus Foods has their soybean shortening listed as 100% hydrogenated and the soap calculator on soapcalc.net has theirs listed as 27.5% hydragenated.  I read one reply to my question on the net that said they use the soybean shortening and just use the SAP of soybean oil and its fine.  So..I will give it a try and see where I land.  Thanks again!
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 03:34:43 AM »

It has a SAP of .136. Columbus Foods has a list with all the SAP values and you can find it here: http://soaperschoice.com/products_list.php.

You  can find it by clicking on "Print Price List"

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 05:46:22 AM »

Is this what you need?

http://www.soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcwp.asp
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Studio Olivia
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 02:57:10 PM »

YES, YES, YES...  I didn't hang around their site enough to find that info.  Thank you sooo much!  That soybean shortening is not quite but almost half the price of palm oil, so I am going to go for it and see how it works.  I'll post my results.  Thanks so much!!
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