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« on: July 29, 2012, 07:28:57 AM »

Hi, I made a CPOP batch about 6 weeks ago and soap is starting to get REALLY oily and sticky (yuck!) I superfatted at 5%, but I superfat all my soaps at 5% and never had this problem before. Maybe I added more oil than recipe by mistake, who knows  Huh

I've been thinking on rebatch, BUT if there is too much oil in the soap, or any of the oils used is causing this stickyness, wouldn't this still be a problem with rebatch anyways because no more lye is added?  Huh
Do you recommend adding anything in particular during rebatch to help with this? Probably salt and make a salt bar? can this be donde in rebatch? I've never ever made a salt bar before, so I'm very hesitant.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 07:44:20 AM »

the only soap that will suds in salt water is practically a 100% coconut bar.

did you use a lot of castor oil?  That will make a bar sticky.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 08:47:38 AM »

Does the soap make suds and lather? If yes, it is usable.

Maybe you didn't mix well enough or there was a false trace. When I had oil floating on the top of my soaps I added it back into the pot to rebatch.

I'd say to rebatch making sure to mix well.  Not sure, but adding something like clay or oatmeal might help to absorb any floating oils.

If the soap is usable, rebatch.

If you think you doubled an oil accidentally, rebatching may not help. 

If you want to experiment, try mixing a little lye (like .2 oz) into water (maybe a 1:2 ratio) and incorporate it into the rebatch; then heat and stir making sure the lye is completely combined.

I'm great with big ideas but not so great in the processing of them!

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 11:29:36 AM »

Opulence, soap is usable, but really sticky and I would not use it as is. I think you are right I might have doubled oils by accident so probably rebatch by itself will not help...
Dear loolee, By adding salt I meant adding it right after rebatch, before pouring into mold.... would it make a salt bar? i've heard that you need to superfat as high as 20% to make a salt bar.... right?
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 12:11:16 PM »

The only oil that bubbles in salt water is coconut oil.  If you added too much coconut oil, you might be OK.  If you added too much of another oil you would get less bubbles than you already have by turning it into a salt bar.

If you think too much oil is the problem, I would add a tiny bit of lye water to the mix when you rebatch.  the lye:water ratio would be 1:2.

If you have a pool of oil, you can just pour off the additional oil and leave it alone.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 07:11:32 PM »

Is there a highly unsaponifiable in the recipe, like jojoba or lanolin?  When used in large portions, they can make the soap feel oily because only a fraction of them will actually turn to soap.

I don't think you can rebatch soap into a salt bar.  My experience has been, it doesn't harden rebatch soap at all and will make it fragile.  I think it needs to be added when there is still active lye.
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