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taenia
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« on: June 19, 2011, 08:36:12 AM »

Hi everyone,

I have attempted to make melt&pour base, following the instructions on the webpage of Joseph Henry

http://home.earthlink.net/~skinesscentuals/Transp.html

Basically, it is the same procedure as making transparent soap according to Catherine Failor, but propylene glycol is substituted for ethylalcohol (isopropylalcohol).

Even when it finally is not transparent (it was my first attempt in HP ever), the base is meltable (and re-meltable), and I did some nice soaps with it. (when I manage how to insert images, I will put them here).

Although I do not have any experience with commercial M&P bases, my main concern is that I believe mine has too high melting point. It starts to solidify as soon as I stop to heat it, the thin skin is created immediately I stop stirring. It makes the soap base very uncomfortable to use (the usable temperature is actually quite burning). I doubt this is the case with the commercial M&P base.

I would be very grateful if you could share any experience on this subject.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Eva
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 08:00:15 PM »

Hi Eva!  Unfortunately, I have never even tried making MP soap completely from scratch.  Thank you for the link though as I will definitely be researching this more.  This is such a common question!  Seems like such an industry secret  Sad

I was thinking about getting this book from Essential Wholesale:  http://www.essentialwholesale.com/How-to-Make-Melt-Pour-Soap-Base-From-Scratch_2

Did you know about that or see that book before?  Any good?
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 06:10:11 PM »

I have that book and I bought two of their kits.  It works excellent and is super easy in my opinion.  The process is much like making a regular batch of HP but you add the ingredients at different temperatures.  In my opinion, it is as good as if not better than most commercial melt and pour soap.  The book also gives the recipe for using oils and other ingredients, much like that of transparent soap. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 06:44:37 AM »

Kayla Fioravanti of Essential Wholesale was the keynote speaker at our recent Alabama soap meeting.  She made a batch of M&P soap from scratch at the meeting and talked about the trial and error during the development of her recipes.  The batch Kayla made at the meeting looked great and it seemed really easy.  I purchased the book because it contained numerous recipes and a lot of excellent information about good manufacturing practices.  I haven't tried to make the soap myself since I don't have all the ingredients on hand, but I hope to give it a try soon.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 08:02:24 AM »

Cjackson, Happy4ever1 ,

thank you for your answers, I already ordered the book, but it takes loooooooooooong time to be shipped in Europe, I have to wait for at least 2 weeks...  Cry

Abd I am VERY curious, does Kayle use the propylene glycol in her recipes, or not at all?

Thanks,

Evik
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 03:27:15 PM »

hi, I just had to pop into this thread...
I of course started out in M&P but realized it wasn't what I wanted to be doing.
However, working in an elementary school and for the YMCA after school and summer camp programs, everyone wants me to teach their young children how to make soap.  Does anyone else see the issue here?  I think I wouldn't mind showing the kids M&P so much if I had made the base myself.  Is it your opinion that this could work?  Maybe I should mention that I have not yet tried HP...
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 07:05:26 AM »

Taenia / Evik,

Yes, Kayla does use propylene glycol in her recipes.  I think she said that it is a necessary ingredient for the soap to melt properly, and  that her attempts to make M&P without it failed.  I'm sure you will enjoy the book when you receive it.  Also, I think Kayla is still testing some recipes and plans a subsequent book. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2011, 02:06:53 AM »

I just received Kayla's book! There are mainly recipes with some ingredients I do not have, but there is also one only with the propylene glycol recipe (although the experimental one). So I will give a second chance to my attempts to make the transparent M&P base.

Have a nice day!

Eva
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 10:30:55 PM »

I bought this book as well. I'm going to wait til the more natural version comes out. It's got too many chemicals in it and not enough places to buy the ingredients needed at a decent price.
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