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gigi
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« on: June 21, 2012, 02:14:30 PM »

I've made this soap recipe several times and I don't know what went wrong this time. It has been 5 days and my soap is still very soft and almost liquid like inside and the color is different.

I made a total of 15lbs. at one time, but I have done this before.

Any ideas of what went wrong and any suggestions as to what to do with my soap (maybe use for liquid soap). That's a lot of soap to go unused.

Thanks for any helpful input!
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 04:44:37 PM »

Would you mind posting your recipe or oils used?  Any additives  - and have you checked and rechecked that you didn't forget anything?

Liquidy 3 days in isn't a great sign.  I would try and CPOP it - not sure that will help but it may.  You can't make liquid soap out of NaOH.  Sounds like there is some issues with your measurements to me if the soap didn't fully harden and is liquidy.  The only other culprit I can think of is a new FO that doesn't behave in CP.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 05:12:47 PM »

Sure, the only oils I used were olive and castor. I infused some herbs and did not add any essential or fragrance oils or any colorants.

 ???I just can't figure it out. Measurements were good, it traced just fine.

Thanks for your input.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 05:17:11 PM »

Olive oil is more prone to separating from a full water recipe.  It can happen for a variety of reasons.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 01:20:34 PM »

sounds like a classic case of false trace on a high OO recipe.  Anytime I have ever used more than 60% olive oil in a recipe, i always stick blend until medium/heavy trace.  Light trace in a high OO recipe usually means FALSE trace....causing issues like you describe.  Hope this helps!  and i hope you can save the soap...15 lbs is ALOT!!!  Good Luck
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 02:18:40 PM »

Is this soap all in one mold or a few?  If it's in one mold I'd leave it for a few weeks and it "could" firm up on it's own.  It could be a very nice bar 6 months from now.  If it's in a few molds I'd dump them all into one big pot and cook the hell out of it then mold it.  I'd also say you had false trace with such a high OO or your lye was the culprit. Was it a new bottle or an old one?
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 03:21:12 PM »

Not sure if you should insulate it or uncover it to allow for airflow.

I agree with ceebee!  If you will need the mold soon for another batch, you may want put it in a crockpot or double boiler and cook off some of the liquid.  If you don't need for mold for a week or two, leave it alone and allow nature to take it's course!
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 04:18:23 PM »

The soap was in three different 5 lb molds. I think the lye was good, so maybe it was a false trace. The soap was hard enough to remove from the molds so I have the molds to use.

Just to clarify, after the soap was made and left in the molds for a few days, the soaps appearance looked absolutely fine, but to the touch it was very soft and almost seemed to be a liquid on the inside (very strange).

I have left the soap uncovered for airflow. The soap actually seems to be getting harder to the touch from the sides, but is still very soft on the bottom.  I think I may let them sit for a few more weeks to see what happens, and if they don't get hard, I will try the crock pot method. How will I know when I've cooked off some of the liquid??

I really appreciate the feedback, I would never have thought of a false trace, but makes perfect sense!!!

My stick blender is on its last leg.....can anyone recommend a great stick blender that will not overheat??? Shocked

Thank you so much!!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 06:33:25 PM »

Go to the hardware store and buy a drill, corded or cordless either one and then into the paint department for a paint paddle.  They come in two sizes, one for the gallon can and one for a 5 gallon.  You'll never have problems overheating or burning out the bushings.   Wish I had done this the first time I burnt out a stick blender instead of the third.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 05:11:27 AM »

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I will definitely do this! I already have a drill so I will go get the paddles.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 05:24:49 AM »

That is a great idea for a "stick blender".  I believe I'll try that when mine goes to the trash.  Still working, though, but will certainly consider that when I have to replace it.  Great idea!
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 05:25:47 AM »

Go to the hardware store and buy a drill, corded or cordless either one and then into the paint department for a paint paddle.  They come in two sizes, one for the gallon can and one for a 5 gallon.  You'll never have problems overheating or burning out the bushings.   Wish I had done this the first time I burnt out a stick blender instead of the third.

What a great idea!!!!

gigi, to rebatch, you just grate up your soap, add a bit of water, then let it melt down and cook for an hour or two.  YOu can test it by taking a little out on your spatula and doing a zap test on it.  The key to rebatching is to not overcook it.... but even if you do, it will still be ok and usable.  The water will evaporate and your soap will be ready to use immediately.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 04:21:46 PM »

What is a ZAP test? Does it hurt lol?
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 04:27:04 PM »

What is a ZAP test? Does it hurt lol?

It just tastes varying degrees of stingy.  Nine volt battery is about the worst... or like an ac adapter into the wall and touching the male end to your tongue.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 07:31:57 PM »

Since I am new to actually making soap, I won't even attempt to give advice as to what to do with the soupy soap.  But, I sure am going to follow this to see what happens.  I am sure something like this will happen to me some day, so I am wondering how to fix it. 

The drill idea is what my husband suggested before we bought anything to make soap with.  He has a shop with about every type of drill you can imagine (retired contractor) so when the stick blender goes, I'll listen to you guys and him and take one of his drills and get a paint paddle.  They say hindsight is always 20/20.   Roll Eyes
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