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aab1
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« on: July 20, 2013, 01:15:29 PM »

I made my first soap with honey, I wanted it to have a considerable amount so I looked for the honey soap recipe with the most honey which was 17.5% and used that amount in my recipe. I also diluted the soap just a bit with water so it would mix better.

This was a salt soap recipe which I can normally unmold after about 3 hours, this one has been curing almost 18 hours and they are still pretty soft, I tried to unmold the bar that I'll keep for myself and the edges stayed stuck in the mold.

Is there just too much added liquid or is it normal for honey soaps to take much longer to harden? Is 17.5% honey too much?

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 02:40:07 PM »

That's a lot of honey & I've always added a pinch of warm water mixed with thick honey so it's thinner & blends better. I really don't know if you added to much, time will tell.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2013, 03:08:09 AM »

It will never harden.  I have a thread about it just search for obscene amounts of honey.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2013, 08:01:18 AM »

It will never harden.  I have a thread about it just search for obscene amounts of honey.

That was an interesting 3 page thread, I'm making a honey coconut milk soap today, that last page made me go to the back of my cabinet and dig out a jar of manuka honey I knew was hiding there somewhere, good thing honey doesn't go bad. I think I'll HP this one so I can use it sooner Grin
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 12:39:19 PM »

It will never harden.  I have a thread about it just search for obscene amounts of honey.

Argh, how much honey can you add? I assumed that since I found a recipe that had that much that it was tested and worked.

Is there any way to save this? I made 20 bars of this soap.

Edit: I searched for "obscene honey" and "amounts honey" and both only find this thread. Could you please help me find the thread?

Edit 2: By using Google instead of this forum's built in search I was able to find it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 01:42:26 PM »

When I make honey soap, I add tablespoons of honey pp, maybe you can turn it into something else  Sad
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2013, 02:18:41 PM »

When I make honey soap, I add tablespoons of honey pp, maybe you can turn it into something else  Sad

Thanks, but your answer seems to be missing a number in front of "tablespoons", or did you mean you add 1 tbsp per pound?

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 10:20:32 PM »

maybe it will work... when i used a lot of honey i put it in the lye water and it carmelized.

honey is a humectant so its expected to take longer to dry out or harden.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 12:16:40 AM »

maybe it will work... when i used a lot of honey i put it in the lye water and it carmelized.

honey is a humectant so its expected to take longer to dry out or harden.

I added the honey slightly diluted with water at trace, not in the lye. I'll definitely keep them a few weeks to see what happens before deciding if I throw them out. If they don't harden would there be any way to save them? Would rebatching chopped bits of it into a new soap possibly save them or ruin that new soap as well?

What's the most amount of honey known to not cause problems in CP soap?

I had made this recipe based on the "Honey I spiced the soap" recipe from this page which uses 17.5% honey compared to oils:

http://www.soap-making-at-home.com/honey_soap_recipe.html

I'm thinking there's a mistake in their recipe because all their other recipes use 2-4 tbsp, I wrote them to let them know they should correct or remove the recipe. It's true I used different oils and was making 50% salt bars, but i don't think that's what caused the problem.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 07:42:52 AM »

I would think you could rebatch small amounts into other soaps, maybe shavings? LOL do salt bars shave? (I know they get hard as a rock), to answer your question 1 to 2 tbl pp depending on recipe and any other additives.

Just thinking, aab1, is a milk salt bar a possibilty?
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