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lightningbug
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« on: February 17, 2012, 05:26:32 AM »

 I have been making my own lotions for a couple of years now but only recently have been having separation issues. it all looks good and cooled going into the bottle but then the water separates from the mixed oils/butters. what am i doing wrong? my last batch i ended up stirring through a sieve to get all the water out so it didnt go to waste, it was thick but worked ok. i know there must be a simple answer i just cant figure it out, i have made dozens of batches and never had this problem until now.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 08:06:12 AM »

Hi could it be your emulsifier is causes your oils to separate. May be the quantity is used is not enough for complete emulsification. On the other hand since you've been formulating for years I don't see that as a problem. Have you changed your emulsifier recently? Are you using a different recipe. If you don't mind could you post your recipe so I can take a second look. Then together we may find the culprit.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 10:05:07 AM »

I had that problem myself at the beginning of my lotion adventure. I was only using my hand held mixer and its mixing capacity was not sufficient to emulsify.
After some more reading and experimenting, I was able to get a lotion containing 70% water, 20% oils, 5% Ewax (WSP) and 5% other additives.
Both water (tea) and oils+ewax are hot when mixing with my hand held mixer, then I take small portions and put in blender at liquefy setting for 2 minutes, until all is done. It becomes very milky looking, white, and creamy. Usually I take a sample from first blender treated lotion and place in the fridge. That quickly gives me and idea about final setting. After all is done and a bit cooler, I add the EOs, preservative, etc.

Since you have experience in making lotions, maybe your emulsifier is a different brand, maybe there is more of some ingredient, probably is one of those things that inadvertently interfered with this particular batch. Go over your recipe again and try to remember everything you did.


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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 02:16:53 PM »

I have read that using beeswax as the emulsifier can do this.  It all looks great at first, but later the water separates from the oils.  I choose to use beeswax because it is more natural than the other waxes and I have not had this happen to me YET, but I am still new at making lotions.  I have read that this can especially happen when you haven't blended it long enough. What is your emulsifier?
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 07:24:40 PM »

 I use beeswax and this is the first problem i have had. my temps for pouring were a little warm maybe to warm. i ended up with a butter after draining the water out, it actually works really well for a flop. But still the question of what really happened I have used the same ingredients for a long time now so am having the conclusion it must be the temperature creating the problem.
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